Thursday, February 16, 2012

Smart money is moving out of realty; so why should you buy?

Article Link

If you are a home buyer waiting for property prices to fall before buying, here’s a counter-thought: the big investors are actually moving out of real estate.

One signal came last week when Deutsche Bank asked the Mumbai-based Lodha Group to return its money with a clean profit. The group forked out Rs 2,542 crore to the bank to enable it to exit its investment.

According to a Business Standard report, apart from Deutsche Bank, there are at least six other private equity and property funds that have exited. Among them: HDFC Property Ventures (two investments of Rs 715 crore), Kotak India Real Estate Fund I (Rs 575 crore), Indiareit Fund (Rs 500 crore), India Advantage Fund Series I (Rs 305 crore) and Trinity Capital plc (Rs 120 crore).

That’s a cool Rs 4,700 crore-and-odd opting out of real estate . The problem is fly-by-night “investors” are realty’s big mafia – keeping prices unreasonably high and preventing actual users from buying. This is also one reason why the Deutsche Bank’s are running away.

Thursday, February 09, 2012

Mumbai placed at 199 in list of 200 cities by per capita income

Read a report from Brookings Insitute.
Article Link

Top 3 Cities
1 Hartford North America 75,086
2 Oslo Western Europe 74,057
3 San Jose North America 68,141

Bottom 3 cities
198 Alexandria Middle East and Africa 2,248
199 Mumbai Developing Asia-Pacific 1,990
200 Cairo Middle East and Africa 1,989

So the question is: We have lowest per capita income, but highest real estate prices? All RE Bulls are immediate to compare Mumbai with New York, London, Tokyo, Singapore and Sanghai. While our income is just $1990 per capita. Are these BULLS cracking something???

Wednesday, February 08, 2012

Real estate BUY/SELL classifieds thread

Let use this thread to post classifieds for sale of apartments/houses/plots in India. I will pin this thread to the top so it can be accessed directly. Sellers please saleable Square Feet area, price and contact information. Buyers please do your due diligence before making the final purchase. Brokers can use this thread if they mention their commission percentage.  Please flag any trolls or undesirable postings.

Real estate BUY/SELL classifieds thread

Let use this thread to post classifieds for sale of apartments in India. I will pin this thread to the top so it can be accessed directly. Sellers please saleable Square Feet area, price and contact information. Buyers please do your due diligence before making the final purchase. Brokers can use this thread if they mention their commission percentage.  Please flag any trolls or undesirable postings.

Sunday, February 05, 2012

Ajit Dayal on real estate prices in India

I think someone with some real guts pointed out why Real Estate prices in India are artificially kept high by Politician / Builder nexus.... The unfortunate thing is there is no outrage. All PSU banks have large amount of money to Builders, and not to needy folks who want to start business, generate employment, etc... GOI has given tacit support to such an act. This situation needs to come out, unfortunately Main Stream Media has not reported this in detail.



Video Link

Friday, February 03, 2012

Mumbai Home Sales Drop to 3-Year Low as Prices Climb to Record

Article Link

Mumbai’s residential home sales dropped to a three-year low in the quarter ended December as record home prices and higher interest rates crimped demand, according to Liases Foras Real Estate Rating & Research Pvt.

Sales in Mumbai, India’s most expensive property market, fell 17 percent from the previous quarter to 7.59 million square feet, said Pankaj Kapoor, founder of Liases Foras. The city’s unsold inventory, or the number of months needed to clear stock at the existing absorption rate, climbed to 44 months. A “healthy market” normally maintains about eight months of inventory, according to Kapoor.

“The likely scenario looks like we will see a dip in prices seeing the dismal sales and as liquidity remains tight,” Kapoor said in a phone interview from Mumbai yesterday.

Sunday, January 29, 2012

Mumbai property: Will prices fall in 2012?

Article Link

To be sure, record home prices and higher interest rates have hit demand badly: Mumbai’s residential home sales dropped to a three-year low in the quarter ended December, according to a Bloomberg report.

According to data provided by Liases Foras Real Estate Rating and Research, sales fell 17 percent from the previous quarter to 7.59 million square feet, the report added.

Unsold inventory, or the number of months needed to clear stock at the existing absorption rate, also climbed to 44 months.

The figures elicited a rather predictable response from the founder of Liases Foras, Pankaj Kapoor: “The likely scenario looks like we will see a dip in prices seeing the dismal sales and as liquidity remains tight,” he told Bloomberg.

Unfortunately, we believe there is no guarantee that property prices will fall, no matter what the experts say.

Wednesday, January 18, 2012

Sobha Signature, RIP

Sobha developers were supposed to build their super expensive highly "exclusive" penthouses for "high net worth individuals". Rs. 5 Crores to Rs.10 Crores for 6800 Sq ft to 8000 Sq ft exclusive apartments. This project called, Sobha Signature, located along the congested Harlur Road, was supposed to be their best thingamagic ever.

"Our CEO is going to live here". "Think about it". "O U R CEO. He is the person who will live here" - peddled a salesman.

Turns out, there aren't enough suckers to pay Rs.5 Crores to Rs.10 Crores in Bangalore. Sobha Signature project has been shelved and will be replaced by Sobha Classic Phase II, which is a "poor man's" luxury apartments. Sobha Classic 3 BRs run between 90 lakhs and 1.15 Crores today.

May be this is the start, the super high end is bursting in Bangalore.

Friday, January 06, 2012

Ignore warnings at own Peril

Article link, Emerging Markets

The collapse of the emerging markets, especially China, India, and Brazil, will have a huge ripple effect on the rest of the world’s economies, and will plunge most countries back into a global recession.

It is our view that emerging market growth has reached an unsustainable level and that a slowdown is taking place. A slowdown is generally not such a calamitous situation, but with expectations for China, and emerging markets at such extremes, the failure to meet or beat these lofty forecasts could mean big shocks to global economies and stocks.

Emerging Market Warning Signs

  • Surging inflation that threatens sustainable growth
  • Soaring money supply that fuels bubbles in stocks and real estate
  • Credit bubbles
  • Massive and understated loan exposure
  • Tightening monetary policy that could “put the brakes” on the economy
  • Inverted yield curves that usually appear before recessions
  • Real estate bubbles evident in ghost towns and empty malls
  • Overconfidence buying at auctions
  • The infamous “skyscraper indicator”
  • Fraudulent companies that have attracted investment from around the world when they are nothing but “shell” companies with unproven financials
  • Most importantly: The stock markets of China, Brazil, and others have been deep into bear-market territory in 2011 – down between 20 percent and 30 percent from their peaks
  • Sunday, January 01, 2012

    Laughing Waters is no Laughing Matter

    http://www.bangaloremirror.com/index.aspx?page=article§id=1&contentid=2011020420110204081607853b53eeb38


    An IT czar, two top-notch cricketers and a leading fashion designer have one more thing in common besides being super-achievers in their respective fields: All four, along with some 400 affluent Bangaloreans, seem to have been taken for a royal ride while attempting to purchase posh villas.


    Another major issue is the ambiguity over who the developer-cum-owner of the land really is. The name that has repeatedly cropped up is that of Prestige. According to Balasubramanian, the property was jointly developed by O G Ragulu’s son, Shrivatsa Rajulu, P S Developers (Prestige) and Laughing Waters. The permission for the layout from the administrator of Ramagondanahalli was obtained by Irfan Razack, chairman and managing director, Prestige Group. Razack held the power of attorney for O G Rajulu, the original owner of the land. Razack’s address mentioned in the documents is Copper Arch, Infantry Road — the official address of Prestige before it moved to the current office on Guard Cross Road.

    However, Prestige maintained that P S Developers was never a part of it. In a letter to the Laughing Waters Owners and Residents Association on November 9, 2010, Prestige Group’s senior vice president, T Arvind Pai, clarified: “We maintain that P S Developers is not part of the Prestige Group and to our knowledge is no longer in existence.” Pai stated that as per the grant khata issued by the thasildar’s office on March 13, 1967, “There is a kharab land of 4.36 acres which has to be reserved for road and drains. It is very clearly established that Laughing Waters is not a Gomala land or government land, and it is therefore incorrect to state that this is a Gomala land.”

    Friday, December 23, 2011

    As Rupee falls, NRIs 'home’ in on realty in Mumbai

    It appears that  a 15% decline in the rupee has lead to surge in NRI interest in property. While the rest of Indian economy slows down the NRI can sustain micromarkets in IT cities like Bangalore, Pune and Chennai

    DNA Article followed by one in Times of India. The builders are in overdrive mode courting the NRI.


    The record decline in the value of the Indian rupee and the sluggish realty market have proved to be a double delight for overseas Indians investing in property here.

    Sunil Sequira, a resident of Kuwait, has zeroed in on a property in Thane at a rate nearly 30% lower than usual. “This is the right time to buy property,” he said. “Many of my friends have also decided to buy property in India. We are expecting an annual 10% to 15% appreciation.”

    Sandeep Reddy, co-founder of Groff.com, a real estate brokerage firm, said it has been getting a good response from overseas buyers. At the recent property exhibition in Dubai, many people booked flats on the spot, and several showed interest in flying to Mumbai to check out property and finalise their decisions.

    “NRIs are mainly interested in Navi Mumbai and Bangalore properties. This time, there was a slightly lower demand for the Delhi market. Going by this response, we have decided to organise and participate in exhibitions in Singapore and other international places that have a large Indian population,” said Reddy.

    Niranjan Hiranandani, managing director of the Hiranandani Group, said, “The decline in the rupee value against the dollar/dinar in the international market has helped to attract more and more NRI buyers. If the cost of the flat is Rs1 crore as per the Indian market, the NRI has to pay only Rs85 lakh— 15% less, thanks to the record decline in the rupee value.”

    Commercial opportunities in the West are on a downturn. So, people are looking at the Indian market for investment and business purposes, he added. “Once the RBI brings down its high interest rate, the city property market will surge again. There is a huge demand for houses, but the high costs and interest rates have discouraged buyers temporarily. People are awaiting the low interest rate loan.”

    Times of India article

    Hot Indian property destinations for NRIs in 2012
    The Non Resident Indian (NRI) might as well remember 2011 as the year of the 'lazy investor'. For NRIs have gained 18% since August 2011, simply by remitting money to India; no effort at all. But as we approach 2012, NRIs must take stock of how best to use their remittances. The traditional favorite has always been real estate. But in this volatile market, how great an investment is it? Is this a good time to buy property in India? What kind of property is a good bet? Let's try to find answers.





    What are the key locations for residential property?
    "Suburban locations of every metro are great investment options. So for instance, you have Gandhinagar near Ahmedabad, Nalasopara, Dahisar, Panvel, Pen and Kalamboli near Mumbai," says Dutt.
    Mahtani places her bets on GST road, Porur and OMR in Chennai, North Bangalore largely Hibbal, Saha Shivnagar, Sarjapur Road and Whitefield in Bangalore, Dwarka Expressway in Gurgaon, Bandra East, Goregaon, Panvel in Mumbai and certain select developments in Lower parel, Mahalaxmi and Parel in Central Mumbai.

    Tuesday, December 13, 2011

    Discussions with a big builder's sales guy

    I was very ambivalent about posting this, but I am just pretty pissed how these big builders get away with semi-legal properties.

    Me:

    Do you still have any big 3 bedrooms on sale? What is the current price?

    Is there katha for the land?

    Sales VP:


    S****a C*****c is completely sold out. I can offer you big 3bhk of 2100 sft.
    in S*****a C******on. There are only two flats available in 3rd & 4th floor
    facing the swimming pool. Total will be 1.1 cr. (app) all inclusive.

    For every project there is a Khata.

    Me:


    OK.

    Is this a "A" Khata or a "B" Khata? My lawyers forbid the "B" Khata saying that is illegal.

    Sales VP:

    Sir, to keep you updated S****a is not related to any illegal documentation. Our property documentation is done by Mr. Anup Shah's law firm, one of the biggest lawyer of the country. Moreover our all projects are approved by SBI, they have their own panel of lawyers without whose confirmation SBI don't approve any property. Also S****a C****n I is ready to move in & people has started shifting now.

    I really don't know after staying in a S****a Flat also how come you are not confident of the builder. 99% of the S****a tenants end up buying in S****a only. We are the largest brand of South India and we are known for our transparency in clear legality of the documentation, doubting us is like doubting the engine quality of a Mercedes Benz car, for what they are famous in the world.
    If you & your lawyer has still doubts, then you are most welcome to our office, there you can meet our legal team and clarify your doubts.

    Me:

    I saw apartments come up for sale in L******er and J*****ne and both have "B" Katha. The general consensus amongst lawyers (I talked to a SBI lawyer as well) is the "B" Katha is not correct.

    Why is that other than Q*****z and one other property, no other S****a property in Bellandur area has a "A" Katha?

    There is a lot of discussion and angst amongst S*****a J******ne owners in the internal mailing list about the lack of this "A" Katha. I am curious to know why Jasmine does not have appropriate Katha for the land.

    I like living in a S*****a community, but I need to know why these properties only have a "B" Katha.

    Sales VP:

    As I told in the last mail you are most welcome to our office to have a detail discussion with our lawyers about all your legal clarifications.

    Also to keep you updated majority of the. S*****a J*****ne residents have bought 2nd/3rd time in S*****a only. I have clients in J*****e block 1 who have bought three times in S*****a and also referred so many of their friend & relatives for S*****a only.

    Me:


    OK. Fair enough.

    If I have to infer what you say, the land is all legal, but there are other things that have caused the "B" Katha. I will reach out to your legal department when I need help.

    Do you have a pointer to your legal department?

    For the record, I love S*****a J*****e.

    Sales VP:

    You can come to our office & meet Mr. Shivraj,from the legal time. But the main concern is C*****c is sold out , in C*****on only 2 flats are left. By the time you finish all your verifications there will be nothing to buy. Immediately block a flat first and then do all your queries.

    Me:

    Not really interested in C*****on. Don't like the location.

    There are plenty of resale properties available in the existing S*****a properties, including C*****c. I am not in a hurry to rush and buy anything without proper legal checks.

    Thanks for your help. I will take the help of Mr. Shivaraj as the need arises.

    Sales VP:

    We don't deal with resale as per our Company norms. Please let me know only if you are interested in new S*****a Property.
    Mr. Shivaraj can only help you only if you are a buyer of our property directly from S****a.


    And thus it goes. Unless the original buyer insists and gets clear documents and title from the developer, there is no chance in hell that you will get all the documents from the developer during subsequent years. And yet, people buy and sell properties worth many Crores.

    Mumbai developers run for cover, cut property prices

    Article Link

    The developer has blinked. Prospective buyers who were waiting for correction in realty prices should rejoice, as city developers have started bringing down property prices by 10% to 30%.

    Manohar Shroff, general secretary of the Maharashtra Chambers of Housing Industry, Navi Mumbai, admitted that developers had started reducing property rates to survive in the sluggish market. Higher interest rates, rising inflation and increasing construction costs have not only dampened demand but also investor desire to book and own more flats.

    ==
    Pankaj Kapoor, managing director of Liases and Foras, the real research firm said, the cash flow in the realty market has dried up in the last two years, and this has spread panic among developers.

    "Earlier, the investors were helping developers by pumping enormous amounts of cash in the property market. Now, the investors themselves are in deep financial trouble, as they could not sell the properties they had bought earlier. So, the market is quite tight," he said.

    Saturday, December 10, 2011

    The "B" Katha

    In my last blog post 'Third time unlucky', there was this comment which said most big name builders are trustworthy and if a bank approves such property, there is nothing to worry.

    Let me provide you with the most obvious evidence to the contrary in this post.

    Many new apartment complexes in the outskirts of Bangalore are sold with what's called the "B" Katha. This includes most of the Sobha apartments in the Bellandur belt (which is where I live). Only a couple of apartments in this belt have the "A" Katha.

    Now these are apartments where a 3 Bedroom apartment sells for Rs. 1.1 Cr - 1.3 Cr and a 4 BR apartment sells for Rs.1.7 Cr to Rs.2 Cr. Most major banks provide loans for these properties.

    I wanted to find out the difference between the two kathas and what it means.

    A "katha" literally means an "extract". All it tells is, there's an entry for this land in the BBMP office and the katha is proof of that. The BBMP keeps two sets of registers - the "A" register for legal land (land legally approved by the Government for residential purposes) and the "B" register to keep track of all the "revenue land" (land not intended for residential purposes). It was created as a means to keep track of all buildings constructed on illegal land. Somewhere down the line, BBMP decided to issue an extract of this illegal register so that property taxes can be collected against these properties.

    I have read all the comments to the blog posts, I am no fan of big Government myself, not to the extent of DhiMan :), but things like this prove his argument. It's clear that there is illegal construction done on un-approved land. There is no reason the Government should bless this in any which way. If anything, they should be levying heavy fines for providing civic amenities. Instead, they start issuing a "Katha", which confuses the lay-buyer.

    The developers, of course, take this as a go-ahead to go berserk on constructing illegal multi crore properties on such illegal lands. What people believe is that the "B Katha" is some proof that this is a valid property. On the contrary, the "B Katha" is a Government issued proof that your property is built on illegal land. Look no further.

    The BBMP commissioner Siddaiah recently created a major ruckus by declaring B Katha is a bogus. This kick started a whole range of discussion around the "B Katha" and puts the major builders in a spot. This ruckus led to "betterment charges to give permanent Katha"

    "As the Bruhat Bangalore Mahanagara Palike (BBMP) gears up to implement betterment charges, citizens may heave a sigh of relief as ‘B’ khata owners can now get a permanent title deed, ‘A’ khata, by paying the same.

    However, senior BBMP officials have placed a rider by stating that ‘A’ khata alone cannot be considered as regularising the property. “Even if they pay the betterment charges and get their ‘B’ khata converted into ‘A’ khata, property owners will still have to get their land regularised under Akrama-Sakrama,” informed a Palike official."


    Say what?

    You can now take an illegal "B Katha" and get it converted to an "A Katha" - but it's still illegal. i.e, the Government has now taken an obviously clear indicator that this property is illegal (B Katha) and have confused the legal document (A Katha). Earlier, if you owned a "A Katha", that was an indication that it was a clear property. Now, if you own a "A Katha", it "may be" clear.

    Nice.

    But then, isn't there an exit through the "Akrama-Sakrama"?

    According to

    "AS PER THE AMENDMENT TO THE KTCP ACT FOR REGULARISATION, 31-12-2008 WAS THE LAST DAY AND ALL THE CONSTRUCTIONS, ILLEGAL BUILDINGS, UNAUTHORISED LAYOUTS, REVENUE SITES ETC FORMED OR CONSTRUCTED BEFORE 31-12-2008 IS ELIGIBLE FOR REGULARISATION."

    Ah, so it's time bound.

    But has even this been implemented? Not quite. It was announced in 2007, but it still hasn't been made legal by the Government yet.


    In the meantime, all builders use this legal mess to forge ahead in the construction of illegal property hoping that some day all of this mess would be regularized.

    Till that happens, your Rs.1.5 Cr pent-house from the big name developer that has a "B" katha - remains illegal; and you even have a Government issued document to prove it.

    Wednesday, December 07, 2011

    Third time unlucky.

    Originally posted in R2IClubForums.

    I am back to entertain you all with more amusing stories of Bangalore Real Estate.

    After ReddyGate and CEOGate, one thing was very clear to me. It's very difficult to get the correct legal documents for a resale property. So I decided to narrow my attention to under construction brand new properties. I mean the builder must be eager to sell these, right? The project is progressing well and some blocks have been built and some others are coming up. The project is scheduled to end by Fall 2012, so give or take 6 months, by Summer 2013, the property should be ready. [Yeah, I know the risk of the project never being completed, but at this point I would buy it if the legal papers are clear and live with *that* risk.]

    I went with this mid-tier builder who is building their first "villa" project. They have coined this new term called "villament", it's essentially an apartment, but with fewer floors. So instead of a 10 story behemoth, these things are 1x two story apartment built on top of another two story apartment. So there are totally 4 floors split between 2 apartments. I had seen this property way back in August and I couldn't agree on a price. We went back and forth on the price and we settled on a price, just in time as CEOGate was winding down.

    The one thing you hear in Bangalore Real Estate - if a project is blessed by "State Bank of India", it's golden. SBI is the top tier bank of the lot and supposedly they have the most anal lawyers in town. If they clear a project, it's absolutely clear. There's nothing to worry.

    This project was approved by SBI. Further to that, State Bank of Travancore approved it, so did Corporation Bank, HDFC Bank, Axis Bank, ICICI Bank and the lot. Hell, my bank loan got approved pronto since this was a pre-approved project.

    Easy peasy I thought. Finally I can be done with the Real Estate mess in Bangalore. And then it started.

    Since this is an apartment type deal, you own a small portion of the undivided share of the land. Since this property was 3 acres and 108 apartments, they divide the undivided land and you have the ownership of it. What this also means is that your lawyer is now going to check the land for all the 3 acres and make sure it's clean. If it is a "villa", typically they verify that one survey number where your property is located. [Typically, big projects are split across multiple survey numbers.]

    I tried to find a lawyer who is aware of the intricacies of the project. One of the learnings I had from the past is when a lawyer starts digging up past history, often there are documents that are difficult to "trace". Giving the benefit of doubt to the developers, people quit, they misplace documents and it's a chore to find them. So I thought if I find someone who is aware of the legal issues, things would be easier.

    I joined the Yahoo Group of the owners of the "villas" and asked them who used a lawyer to verify the land. Of the 30 odd people in the mailing list, not one had used an external lawyer. They all depended on the fact that the bank they borrowed money from clearing the land. Since the land was cleared by the bank, they assume the land and the project should be clean.

    I had little choice but to go with the lawyer I have worked in the past.

    This developer gave us a file containing of all the latest sale deeds and "katha" of the 3 different survey numbers. My lawyers went through this and came up with a list of documents that have to be investigated. Each of the survey numbers had 7-8 portions of land parcels and each land portion had multiple buyer and seller. The lawyer said this land is very "fragmented" so he needs to spend a lot of time.

    Every land sale deed comes with what's called a "Mother Deed", which lists the history of the land. Typically any developer hands over the mother deeds along with the latest documents to a lawyer check. This developer refused to hand over these documents to my lawyer stating that the originals are mortgaged with SBI (since they pledged the land with SBI and borrowed money against it) and they only have one copy. They refused to make further copies of the documents.

    So I beg my lawyer to send a person over to their office. Five such visits and nearly 20 hours of pouring over a few thousand pages of documents, my lawyer goes back in time for all the three survey numbers and investigates all the purchase and sales of the lands.

    At the end of it, he lists about three dozen gotchas in the land. A few listed below for a sampling:

    - Survey number "C", which forms nearly 50% of the apartment land was acquired by the Government in 1992 for "hitech" purposes. All the land was an agricultural land to start with and it was converted to "industrial" purposes when this happened. In 2007, apparently this document was converted to "residential". The developer had no documentation available for either the conversion to "hitech" land nor has documentation for conversion to "residential". When we asked about it, they said they have applied to the Tahsildar for this and they will get back to us. It's pretty bizarre that there isn't clear paperwork for a majority of the land, as late as 2007.

    - There exists a middleman (John Doe) who has been the GPA owner for many pieces of the land in this lot since 1990. He has been the buyer and seller of this land many times over from 1990 to 2007. In 1995, on a single day, many sites were registered. All the sites were sold by John Doe. The GPA number mentioned in the sale deeds is different from the GPA provided to us. The original GPA, of course, is not traceable.

    - When a piece of land is sold, the sale deed mentions the site number, and boundaries. The boundaries would say something like "bounded in the east by site x, in the west by site y, in the south by site z and north by 30 feet road". Now, when the sale happened in 1995, for ALL the sites, the boundaries are the SAME. The site numbers differ, but the boundaries remain the same. This is as if the same site was sold many times over on the same day.

    The typical answer given by the developer for such cases is that this is a typographical error. While reasonable, the Government provides a solution to fix it. You can apply for a "rectification deed" and correct the errors in the sale deeds. This developer has not done it so far and refuses to do this since it's too late to do the changes.

    - None of the original sale deeds for the 1995 sale is available. All that exists are certified copies of the sale deeds. The excuse given here is that the originals were lost. If that is the case, then the process is to file a police complaint, post an ad in the newspaper regarding this and save those as reasons to go with a certified copy. Of course, none of this is available.

    Depending upon the lawyer you use, they either check 30 years of land documents or some go as back as 60 years. Here, I was getting stuck with improper documentation within the last 15 years.

    The developer is unwilling to fix any of the errors in the sale deeds. I may get to see the RTC for the Government acquisition and release, but even that, we aren't sure.

    But I wonder, how is this possible? These are obvious errors that SBI should have caught. So, what gives?

    To cross verify, I find a lawyer who works often with SBI to approve these types of documents. He goes over the list of questions and confirms whatever my lawyer has raised are all valid questions and there's nothing out of the ordinary. When I ask him how SBI would approve such a project, all I get back is a smile and an answer that says "anything is possible in India".

    I don't understand why the buyers in India don't go for an independent legal opinion when it comes to Real Estate. Shouldn't these things be caught up-front before 90% of the project is sold out? Isn't that the only way you can get a Real Estate developer to fix these wrongs before it's too late?

    Thursday, December 01, 2011

    HDIL sells off prime plot at 42 crore loss

    Well, so much for real estate always goes up.... Even pros at HDIL could stump, how come novice investors can make money...

    Article Link


    MUMBAI: In the clearest sign of where the realty market is headed, leading developer Housing Development and Infrastructure (HDIL) has sold a 15.5-acre Eveready Industries plot at Turbhe-which it had bought for Rs 115 crore from the B M Khaitan group in 2008-for Rs 86 crore to Thyrocare Group, a medical diagnostic group. The hush-hush deal which is Rs 29 crore less than the purchase price has shocked realty experts.

    Sources say HDIL has sold it at a much higher loss than Rs 29 crore. When it bought the land, HDIL paid MIDC Rs 4 crore towards differential premium, Rs 5.8 crore towards stamp duty and registration in addition to the land price of Rs 115 crore. Over Rs 2 crore was paid as consultancy fees. So, the total cost came to Rs 128 crore. The sale price included stamp duty, registration and differential premium pricing to MIDC. "So, the loss effectively works out to Rs 42 crore,'' a consultant said.

    Friday, November 25, 2011

    Retail opening cheers big firms


    Commercial space and shops in Tier-1 and Tier-2 cities will now see a jump in prices. In London Tesco Express is ubiquitous and found in every corner of the city. Tesco Express'es operate in 1000 sq ft of space. I forsee every suburb to have multiple mini big box express shops of every retailers as there is very little available retail space in most of these areas.  I would not be surprised  if prices of commercial shops rise another 25% from here. 

    (Reuters) - India's move to open its supermarket sector to foreign investors brought relief to its capital-starved local chains but failed to impress small-shop owners who dominate retail in the country, despite rules intended to safeguard small operators.
    The government approved its biggest reform in years by allowing global supermarket giants such as Wal-Mart Stores Inc and Tesco to enter India with a 51 percent stake in the hope it would attract capital to build much-needed supply chains and improve efficiency to alleviate food-driven inflation.
    "This is an extremely important step for domestic retailers as this will get in much-needed capital, apart from domain knowledge," said Thomas Varghese, chief executive of Aditya Birla Retail.
    Chain stores account for just 6 percent of a $500 billion retail market dominated by street stalls and corner shops.
    Many Indian chains are cash-strapped and loss-making, struggling to build scale given high costs, poor supply chains and scarce real estate and have been eyeing equity investments and joint venture partnerships with global firms to build scale.
    Vijay Karwal, head of consumer, retail and healthcare for Asia at Royal Bank of Scotland based in Hong Kong expects more than $5 billion in foreign investment into the Indian retail sector over the next five to seven years.
    Given the relative lack of modern retail infrastructure in India, and particularly in the enabling back-end infrastructure ... the vast majority of investment this change is expected to trigger would be greenfield investment into new retail sites and infrastructure," he said.
    Shares in Indian retailers Pantaloon Retail, Shoppers Stop, Trent jumped -- bucking a fall in the wider stock market -- on expectations that they will form tie-ups with foreign players, and not just compete with them.
    Debashish Mukherjee, partner and vice-president at consultancy firm AT Kearney, expects joint ventures and investments in local players from overseas operators over the next six months.
    "The set of transactions which will happen fast is foreign players who are in existing joint ventures with Indian firms, the increase or decrease in stake, will happen quickly," he said. "The second are a set of deals that are waiting to happen and have been just waiting for the announcement."
    SMALL SHOPS UNHAPPY
    To appease opponents, the government said foreign stores will only be permitted in cities of more than 1 million -- of which India has more than 50 -- and individual states can decide whether to allow global players on to their patch.
    It also insists that foreign retailers source almost a third of their produce from small industries, invest at least $100 million in India and spend half of that on infrastructure such as cold storage and warehouses.
    Many small shop owners fear for their livelihoods.
    "It will affect my business as families prefer going to air-conditioned stores with fancy packaged goods these days," said Vinod Jain, a 27-year-old small grocery shop owner in the Lower Parel neighborhood of central Mumbai.
    A trade group representing so-called "kirana" shop owners is planning protests.
    "The move to let the foreign retailers in will most certainly lead to job losses," said Praveen Khandelwal, general secretary of the Confederation of All India Traders.
    "They should have worked on some kind of protectionist mechanism for smaller traders before coming out with this policy," he said.
    Foreign retailers who welcomed the Indian government's move to open the sector also view the entry conditions with caution.
    "Some of the conditions look quite stringent. The investment in particular -- it's all quite big money. We'd need to know the details, and how that would be accounted for," said an official with a major global retailer who did not wish to be identified.

    Wednesday, November 23, 2011

    India's property prices bite the dust - with a few exceptions



    Hindustan Times reports on NHB's index.


    Residential property prices have dropped across most cities, with an exception of Delhi, Mumbai, Chennai and Pune, mirroring the trend that consumers are perhaps putting off planned house purchases due to rising interest rates and fall in disposable incomes. The movement in prices of
    residential properties has shown a decreasing trend in nine cities covered by the National Housing Bank's (NHB) Residex during the July-September quarter of 2011 compared to the previous three months. ( see table)
    NHB Residex tracks the housing prices in the select 15 cities. The classification has been designed so as to give the most representative index for each city based on the transactions in the market and data collected from various sources.

    The data is put through a model that depicts the actual behaviour of the market and throws up the index.

    Bank credit has slowed down in most sectors during the last six months prompted by deceleration in investment demand. Latest data mirror strong warnings on consumer spending slowdown.

    Loans to real estate have also slowed down sharply to 2.3% during the first six of 2011-12 from 10.3% in the previous year.

    The RBI has raised interest rates 13 times in the past 19 months to tame prices.

    Credit growth to industry during April to September decelerated to 7.5% from 8.1% last year.

    Friday, November 18, 2011

    The coming NRI dilemma

    I was speaking to a friend the other day and he bought up the issue of buying an apartment in Bangalore. Now IT folks these days have a lot of choice in terms of cities however this guy had lived in Bangalore in the past and therefore the decision was pretty much obvious. The next thing which came up was within Bangalore which area's are nice, inexpensive but at the same time accessible to the IT corridor. Koramangala was mentioned but easily discounted as it was too pricey, so was Indra Nagar and Jaya Nagar as they didnt't meet the inexpensive criteria. Next came up the Marathahalli - Sarjapur road belt. While it didn't meet the nice criteria, it was easily the cheaper option given that they were on the IT corridor itself. 

    The topic of budget came up and a quick check of real estate websites puts the rate roughly at Rs 4,500-6000 per sq/ft all inclusive. A 3 bed flat should easily cost anything between 70L to 1 Crore. Now 70L is definitely not inexpensive however as compared to Koramangala this was definitely cheaper. Next the topic of the rupee came up. At Rs 51 a dollar the rupee has dipped 15% over that past 6 months. My friend was instantly salivating at the thought that he is suddenly 15% more richer then 6 months ago in terms of net-worth. Psychologically he felt more comfortable purchasing the home now then few months ago.

    This led me to think on the impact NRI's have on Bangalore real estate. Come NRI season if 25% of NRI's interested in purchasing close deals at prevailing prices the builders have enough staying power in the game to close the the remaining 75% at higher prices. The biggest weapon which the builders have is that they can delay projects at will without fear of any litigation or judicial action. In such a scenario prices will always be held constant or increased with inflation. My NRI friend has the US dollar as his Indian inflation fighting weapon, however he must compete with other fellow NRI's to carve out his space in the Bangalore micro market.

    At the end of the discussion my friend concluded that he will look at apartments in this belt, built up reputed builders with a gestation time of 3 years. He felt he had enough time then to get the apartment paid off without taking a loan from Indian banks. We talked about cheap financing available from US banks and he could easily get some 0-4% APR loans in the current market which can keep him liquid. One interesting thing coming out of the discussion was that we never discussed renting and briefly discussed buying plots as the discussion was focussed on the primary home at his destination city.

    As we were wrapping up our discussion the only thing I asked him to do is to make sure he can sleep well at night, regardless of what happened to the rupee, interest rates, his job or the Bangalore real estate market. Anything which sacrifices sleep  is not worth the trouble. 

    I would like for readers to point out if this sentiment is prevalent across cities among the NRI community. In my opinion builders who cater to NRI's will always have smooth sailing thru the ongoing tough times and will inflate the bubble as the supply of money is always increasing.